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IanWagner



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

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Never could, never will.


That's a shame.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

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Never could, never will.


That's a shame.


There's a bar in my state owned by some big LS fans - I'd guess you could call them rednecks but around here we just call them hicks - you know, confederate flag and all. There's no Neil on their jukebox and they won't allow cover bands to play Neil Young songs in their sets. Pretty extreme.

I don't feel that I'm missing anything by not having LS in my life by choice.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

halleluwah wrote:
If Jeff is talking about the image of what Skynyrd and their ilk have come to mean today (NASCAR, Git-R-Done, general Jingoistic Red State concerns), then I understand what he means.


That's pretty much what I mean.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

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IanWagner wrote:
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Never could, never will.


That's a shame.


There's a bar in my state owned by some big LS fans - I'd guess you could call them rednecks but around here we just call them hicks - you know, confederate flag and all. There's no Neil on their jukebox and they won't allow cover bands to play Neil Young songs in their sets. Pretty extreme.

I don't feel that I'm missing anything by not having LS in my life by choice.
You've gotta understand that's what the band has turned into, though, not what they were really about when Ronnie Van Zandt was still alive (okay, aside from the Confederate flag thing). They actually LOVED Neil Young, and just put that line in there as a little needling joke. Ronnie often wore Neil t-shirts onstage, and the band reportedly asked him to send them a couple of demos of new songs of his that they might cover shortly before their plane crash. And Neil actually did send them "Powderfinger" to record before he did, because he really loved them as well.

I mean, this is a band that wrote pro-gun control, anti-racism, anti-George Wallace songs, and a song of theirs like "Things Goin' On" is damn near SOCIALIST in its viewpoint. With Ronnie at the helm, the band was really about turning a lot of negative Southern stereotypes on their heads, not cowtowing to them. I mean, "Gimme Three Steps" is a song which subverts the Southern 'tough guy' image by being blatantly about wanting to run away from a fight with a bigger guy like your ass was on fire. They were actually really subversive to their core audience that way. Unfortunately, a lot of what now makes up their fanbase isn't really bright enough to get the inherent irony, and so they have turned the band into Larry the Cable Guy-esque stereotypical Southern cardboard cutouts, and even more unfortunately, the surviving members of the band have been all too happy to cater to that. I think Ronnie Van Zandt must be rolling in his grave over what his little brother and his ex-bandmates have done to sully the good name of his band.

It's a real pity; in the 70s they were actually pretty cool, but nowadays, their image has been completely ruined by their cultivated, pandering redneck image for the last 20 years. But in the 70s, they were a really respected hard-rock band; when they opened for the Who on the Quadrophenia tour in '73, Townshend was reportedly completely blown away by them.

Judging Lynyrd Skynyrd based on what their image has turned into is like judging the Beach Boys based on them playing with John Stamos on Full House. It's not the real heart of what the band originally was.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

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[You've gotta understand that's what the band has turned into, though, not what they were really about when Ronnie Van Zandt was still alive (okay, aside from the Confederate flag thing). They actually LOVED Neil Young...


I understand what you're saying. But, it looks like I'll never feel the need to embrace them because of what they've become. Still, back in the 70s I didn't like them then. And now there's zero chance they will grow on me. And many artist have grown on me since the 70s - one band being The Beach Boys.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

dauntless9 wrote:
halleluwah wrote:
[You've gotta understand that's what the band has turned into, though, not what they were really about when Ronnie Van Zandt was still alive (okay, aside from the Confederate flag thing). They actually LOVED Neil Young...


I understand what you're saying. But, it looks like I'll never feel the need to embrace them because of what they've become. Still, back in the 70s I didn't like them then. And now there's zero chance they will grow on me. And many artist have grown on me since the 70s - one band being The Beach Boys.
I dig. There are several Skynyrd songs that have been burnt to a crisp for me too, just by virtue of either having been overplayed by classic rock radio, or due to the fact that I used to play in bar bands for a long time, and I just go so tired of playing them. So a lot of the band's bigger hits (Sweet Home Alabama, What's Your Name, Simple Man, etc.) are pretty much gone for me (I still really, really like the main slide guitar line on the first half of Freebird, though, which sort of salvages it for me). But I do appreciate what the band was about in the 70s for the most part.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Great comp.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

I think Ode is a poor choice for Bobbie Gentry. I'd go for Okolona River Bottom Band.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

IanWagner wrote:
I think Ode is a poor choice for Bobbie Gentry. I'd go for Okolona River Bottom Band.


Yeah, half of that whole album is great for that. It is one of the purest expressions of the classic Southern lifestyle I have seen in the rock era. I think that's one reason why it clicked with me -- I know what reunions like those are, I know what southern churches are like, I may not be bayou or deep South but Okolona and Oklahoma aren't that far off in spirit.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

How about adding Randy Newman's "Louisiana 1927"?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Joel5000 wrote:
How about adding Randy Newman's "Louisiana 1927"?


It's on there.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

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Joel5000 wrote:
How about adding Randy Newman's "Louisiana 1927"?


It's on there.


Dude, if you must comment, please attend all the meetings.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Fancy Lad wrote:
Susan wrote:
Joel5000 wrote:
How about adding Randy Newman's "Louisiana 1927"?


It's on there.


Dude, if you must comment, please attend all the meetings.


My name is Joel5000, and i can't read. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Just off the top of my head, these are Southern tunes or they're by folks who are Southern or who did Southern songs or they just plain sound Southern to me, even though they weren't by people who were Southern themselves but just should have been. Another beer, please.

Tom T. Hall: That's How I Got to Memphis
Professor Longhair: In the Night
Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys: That's What I Like About the South
Professor Longhair: Go to the Mardi Gras
Allman Brothers Band: Southbound
Taj Mahal: Fishin' Blues
CCR: damn near anything. Damn right.

And more if you want.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

I now realise I have forgotten a track from Mavis Staples majestic new album.


Please keep the suggestions coming.
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