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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

I agree, it's a great Hollywood film -- and I *hated* all of Fincher's previous work. This is a real step up for him.

Also, The Host is a lot of fun.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Criterion is to release "Days of Heaven" in October:

http://www.criterion.com/asp/release.asp?id=409
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

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If you haven't seen it yet, I'm suggest you rent "Zodiac", which is now out on DVD. It's the best picture of the year, thus far. Take it from me.


Totally agree. But don't buy it! A director's cut w/ new interviews with the original investigators and survivors will come out in 2008.

And it's really more than just a good Hollywood movie.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

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Chris D. wrote:
Not to derail (there's no other thread for this), but some news on the complete Twin Peaks box set:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=7635


The marketing of TP Season 2 and this "definitive" thing has been a total disgrace & rip-off for fans. The region2 discs are missing all extras on the first half of the series, the region 1 box looks like it was designed by a 12 year old and then 6 months later a "definitive" edition which features no deleted scenes (and we know they are out there - how about the entire end section of the european pilot when the killer is revealed).

We still have no official release of season 2 at all in the UK. The only reason i would buy this complete edition would be to ram it down the neck of the Paramount chief exec.


If you think the Region 1 art was bad, you should've seen the early Gold Box. I agree that it's very cheap of them, but this stuff was badly planned from the start. Originally Season 2 was going to get the bulk of the extras for the entire series. Their logic behind this was that Season 1 should be more about introducing people to the show. Maybe that's been their problem too - not knowing how much of the sales would be due to old versus new fans. I'm a little biased because I knew before Season 2 was coming out that they would due a series box, but if I bought Season 2 I think I'd be angrier. It's another lesson in doing research online before buying a DVD. It pays to know what's out there and what you're getting.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Tuxedo Kiddd wrote:
Criterion is to release "Days of Heaven" in October:

http://www.criterion.com/asp/release.asp?id=409


Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

you gotta be kidding me wrote:
I agree, it's a great Hollywood film -- and I *hated* all of Fincher's previous work. This is a real step up for him.

Also, The Host is a lot of fun.


The Game is a big favourite 'mind-fuck' film of mine. Love it. Mind you I liked 7 and Fight Club too... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Seven is a big, big fave of mine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Bubba Ho-Tep wrote:
If you haven't seen it yet, I'm suggest you rent "Zodiac", which is now out on DVD. It's the best picture of the year, thus far. Take it from me.


I watched it last night, and enjoyed it quite a bit. I guess there's some factual inaccuracies in there, though (I poked around the web today checking stuff out). Like the birthday thing, apparently didn't happen. I don't think there's any easy answers to that one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Rented three films at the weekend, on Saturday night we had a bit of a contrast with 'The Good Shepherd' followed by Apocalypto - one film where very little happens very slowly followed by a total visual and visceral assualt on the senses! Apocalypto was the hands down winner though!

Watched The Number 23 on Sunday and it was...OK. Passable. Fine while it was on, slightly less so when the story revealed itself and no interesting aftertaste.

The Good Shepherd (De Niro's CIA flick) was well made, well acted and hard to like, and after a while, a bit boring. Glad I watched it though - I did learn something about the elite in the US.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

The Incredibles (aw no, not again!) was not meant only to be a family film, it was meant also to be a film about the dynamics of family relationships. Most families include an adult so a family film should not be just for kids. The Incredible is not a film portraying superheroes in a 'joking' way, like making fun of them, but a film about superheroes having fun--not a drop of irony there, and also trying to show them in a believable reality rather than say, Superman in the 60s. So maybe this is where the misleading comes from? I do take Syndrome seriously--partly as a comment on the celebrating of the pedestrian vs. denial of greatness; and partly as a comment on the twisted Oedipal themes of fanboys and superhero boy wonders. This reminded me more of Moore's Top Ten sidekick/child porn ring plot than the Watchmen. Outside of the superhero relocation act (which seemed a take on HUAC, 50s newsreel and all) I don't see any similarities at all. Watchmen is not a 'more realistic' take on superheroes, Moore & Gibbons tried and succeeded in showing how ridiculous the notion of the 'superman' is. And it seems to me that Moore considered Watchmen just a one-off, a side trip in superheroes, not as the template for the future of comics it has become. There's a difference in Watchmen and Kurt Busiek's Astro City and the film shares more with Astro City, if that makes any sense. Syndrome had very 'serious' traits, it was just that this was not intended to be a dark film so there was no need to take it to the hilt.

Doom was scary at times--but Kirby also showed him to be a ham, second rate, and anachronistic. Others have even tried to portray his tender, loving side.

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I think if they approach a lot of these characters honestly then kids wouldn't be able to see the movies. Or they wouldn't want to.


Now an adult superhero film is a great idea, and I'd like to see one too. You're right, films like Batman Begins are in this weird 'grown-up kid' universe where the people are adults and seem to be doing adult things in a childish way. And there's definitely no investigation into the motives that these obviously troubled people exhibit.

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"He should be driven insane by his own transgressions and sink further into this new personality/costume..."


Bruce Wayne is compelled to dress up as a human bat and get very violent with other violent people. Maybe why we haven't seen a superhero film that's totally adult (no one-liners) is because of the very thing you said about Incredible--it would be misleading. Because: superheroes are for kids. You and I and a bunch other people know this to be crap, and the slew of recent comic-films are helping to get away from this idea, but it is still ingrained within the mind of the public. And length is an issue, one of the reasons I was so disappointed in Heroes, adult for adult's sake but terrible. The potential of an ongoing series about superheroes wasted. An 'adult' comic that is sort of weak (like Ghost World) but that I feel would make a killer film is Burns' Black Hole. It also has 'fantastical' elements that Ghost World lacks. I really wish That 70s Show had done Black Hole as their last season.


I've seen one maybe legit Joker pic and Ledger looks pretty creepy. I also thought the Scarecrow CGI hallucinogen effects were pretty creepy in the film. We've talked about dialog and story but what about visual aspects of comics to films? How can it re-create the effect of one whole splash page--or repeated panels--or panels read front to back and back to front? Leo mentioned Lee's The Hulk--a failed experiment--but Lee actually got separate panels flowing on the big screen, which was a bold but obvious thing to try and do when you think about it. And Sin City and Spiderman did it well too--but no one else seems to be thinking in that direction.

As for Ghost World, are the girls hott? That's all I ask for in a Clowes flick. And Crumb/American Splendor--how come Crumb comes off as so loveable and Pekar not? Are the styles that different? But yeah--if I want to hear old cantankerous weasels whine about their record collection or the sales tax at the supermarket checkout I'll peek in here. Sorry Leo, I've read Pekar but I just don't like him--but I know that was considered a faithful adaptation. I don't like Crumb much either but at least he can draw well.

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but what kid wants to sit through 2 hours of meditation and poetry for one hour of ass kicking?


Kind of like Transformers really. But a Nexus film would have flown 30 years ago but won't today--how sad is that? And kids would have loved it and open minded grown-ups would have dug it too.

Thanks everyone for the Malick & Erice & Zodiac inspirations. And JOe, it was me--Garth Nix is one of my fav authors.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/stanley-kubrick-collection2.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Bubba Ho-Tep wrote:
http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/stanley-kubrick-collection2.html


Looks awesome, but it's too bad Barry Lyndon and Lolita will be separate from the set.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:28 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

http://www.dugpa.com/

Twin Peaks deleted scenes!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

alan wrote:
Rented three films at the weekend, on Saturday night we had a bit of a contrast with 'The Good Shepherd' followed by Apocalypto - one film where very little happens very slowly followed by a total visual and visceral assualt on the senses! Apocalypto was the hands down winner though!.


Watched it last night, Alan. Have you got more thoughts on it? Your description fits my first impressions. I am trying to put my head around Mel Gibson. Ther is a total split, in my head, between what he looks like, what he says and what he does. I feel watching Apocalypto maybe key to understanding what he is trying to achieve, I'll get back to it, as I think it is necessary compare The Passion of Christ and Apocalypto.
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Chris D. wrote:
http://www.dugpa.com/

Twin Peaks deleted scenes!!


Wow...I am very happy to read this news...I might but two sets I'm so excited. I'm glad I waited on buying the recent Season 2 set.
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